Exorcist the Beginning (Renny Harlin - 2004)
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Renny Harlin reprend le film
Harlin To Steer Exorcist in the Right Direction Source: Variety Friday, October 24, 2003
Morgan Creek Productions has tapped director Renny Harlin for six weeks of reshoots on Exorcist: The Beginning. He is reportedly due to begin work in mid-November.
Harlin replaces Paul Schrader, who dropped out last month as director of the prequel to the 1973 film due to creative differences. Schrader's name will remain on the film as director.
The movie traces the story of Father Merrin back to his first encounter with the devil in Africa and stars Stellan Skarsgard, Gabriel Mann, Clara Bellar and recording artist Billy Crawford.
Harlin To Steer Exorcist in the Right Direction Source: Variety Friday, October 24, 2003
Morgan Creek Productions has tapped director Renny Harlin for six weeks of reshoots on Exorcist: The Beginning. He is reportedly due to begin work in mid-November.
Harlin replaces Paul Schrader, who dropped out last month as director of the prequel to the 1973 film due to creative differences. Schrader's name will remain on the film as director.
The movie traces the story of Father Merrin back to his first encounter with the devil in Africa and stars Stellan Skarsgard, Gabriel Mann, Clara Bellar and recording artist Billy Crawford.
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En tout cas, ce film ne sera pas le "Nouveau Schrader".
Ouf, un peu cynique sur ce coup-là.
Ouf, un peu cynique sur ce coup-là.
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Le Scandale continue: après que Renny Harlin ai passé 13 semaines à retourner le film, il ne comportera AUCUN plan filmé par Paul Shrader. Seule bonne chose: exit Billy Crawford.
Voilà qui restera dans les annales!
Harling's Exorcist Won't Include Schrader's Footage Source: Variety Sunday, February 22, 2004
Variety reports that Renny Harlin's reshoot of Exorcist: The Beginning wrapped filming February 22 after 13 weeks on Rome's Cinecitta Studios backlot, where word is that not a single frame of the footage shot by Paul Schrader will be included in the bedeviled prequel's new cut.
Harlin's 13-week effort equals the amount of time spent by Schrader on his original shoot. Schrader dropped out of the Morgan Creek production last year due to creative differences. Still, his name is reportedly meant to stay on the film.
Originally budgeted at $25 million, the antecedent to the 1973 horror classic is now jokingly being referred to in Rome as "the sequel to the prequel."
Three original key cast members - Clara Bellar, Gabriel Mann and pop star Billy Crawford - are not likely to appear in the final version, since they didn't return for reshooting. A new writer, Alexi Hawley, was brought in to rewrite the William Wisher and Caleb Carr script, and a new editor is working only with Harlin's material for the recut.
Exorcist: The Beginning, which is scheduled for release via Warner Bros. this year, recounts the tale of Father Merrin's journey as a young missionary priest to post-WWII Africa, which led to his first encounter with demonic forces. The young Merrin is played by Stellan Skarsgard who, after working with Schrader, returned to Cinecitta to reshoot with Harlin.
While Schrader's footage is thought to have been considered too tame, the new footage is said to generously feature revolving eyeballs, spinning heads and loads of projectile vomit.
Voilà qui restera dans les annales!
Harling's Exorcist Won't Include Schrader's Footage Source: Variety Sunday, February 22, 2004
Variety reports that Renny Harlin's reshoot of Exorcist: The Beginning wrapped filming February 22 after 13 weeks on Rome's Cinecitta Studios backlot, where word is that not a single frame of the footage shot by Paul Schrader will be included in the bedeviled prequel's new cut.
Harlin's 13-week effort equals the amount of time spent by Schrader on his original shoot. Schrader dropped out of the Morgan Creek production last year due to creative differences. Still, his name is reportedly meant to stay on the film.
Originally budgeted at $25 million, the antecedent to the 1973 horror classic is now jokingly being referred to in Rome as "the sequel to the prequel."
Three original key cast members - Clara Bellar, Gabriel Mann and pop star Billy Crawford - are not likely to appear in the final version, since they didn't return for reshooting. A new writer, Alexi Hawley, was brought in to rewrite the William Wisher and Caleb Carr script, and a new editor is working only with Harlin's material for the recut.
Exorcist: The Beginning, which is scheduled for release via Warner Bros. this year, recounts the tale of Father Merrin's journey as a young missionary priest to post-WWII Africa, which led to his first encounter with demonic forces. The young Merrin is played by Stellan Skarsgard who, after working with Schrader, returned to Cinecitta to reshoot with Harlin.
While Schrader's footage is thought to have been considered too tame, the new footage is said to generously feature revolving eyeballs, spinning heads and loads of projectile vomit.
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Un projet qui contenait bon nombre de thèmatiques intéressante vis à vis de l'oeuvre de shrader.Roy Neary a écrit :C'est plutôt une bonne nouvelle pour Schrader, selon moi. Ainsi il ne sera pas du tout associé à ce projet... disons... fumeux.
Je trouve hallucinant de voir tout un studio produire un film, non seulement rejeter le travail commandé au réalisateur mais en prime le faire retourner entièrement par un autre réalisateur... Il va moisir ou ce film de Shrader maintenant?
En plus comme les executives avaient mal lus le scénar original la première fois, ils l'ont fait réecrire pour inclure vomi et compagnie.
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La seule chose que je retiens de cette enième bataille producteurs - réalisateurs, c'est que Caleb Carr est scénariste. S'il a autant de talent dans ce domaine qu'en littérature, ça promet mes aïeux, il pourrait bien nous pondre certaines intrigues du tonnerre. S'il pouvait adapter lui même ses deux bouquins pour le cinéma, ce serait une sacrée bonne nouvelle.
Ah si, encore autre chose, un film de Renny Harlin, tous aux abris anti atomiques et prenez des provisions pour quelques semaines.
Et enfin merci de ne pas traiter Caleb Carr ( ou un autre ) de connard à la seule lecture de quelques paroles dont on ne connait pas le contexte dans lequel elles ont été dites. Par ailleurs, comme c'est toujours un journaliste qui relaie ces propos, il faut encore prendre plus de pincettes, vu qu'il peut lui aussi interpréter volontairement ou non les déclarations, en sucrer ( ou oublier ) quelques parties ou quelques mots qui en changeraient complètement la signification.
Ah si, encore autre chose, un film de Renny Harlin, tous aux abris anti atomiques et prenez des provisions pour quelques semaines.
Et enfin merci de ne pas traiter Caleb Carr ( ou un autre ) de connard à la seule lecture de quelques paroles dont on ne connait pas le contexte dans lequel elles ont été dites. Par ailleurs, comme c'est toujours un journaliste qui relaie ces propos, il faut encore prendre plus de pincettes, vu qu'il peut lui aussi interpréter volontairement ou non les déclarations, en sucrer ( ou oublier ) quelques parties ou quelques mots qui en changeraient complètement la signification.
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Moi je suis dégouté pour Shrader et pour les acteurs déboutés ...
Et surtout les raisons invoquées ... pas assez gore ... on aura tout vu alors que ce sont les films les plus subtiles du genre qui marchent le mieux. Tout ce travail pour rien ... ce n'est pas rien de faire un film ...
Le reste ressemble à une grosse et triste farce ... à moins d'un miracle ou d'un maléfice ?
Et surtout les raisons invoquées ... pas assez gore ... on aura tout vu alors que ce sont les films les plus subtiles du genre qui marchent le mieux. Tout ce travail pour rien ... ce n'est pas rien de faire un film ...
Le reste ressemble à une grosse et triste farce ... à moins d'un miracle ou d'un maléfice ?
There is something very important that we need to do as soon as possible.
What's that?
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What's that?
Fuck !
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Morgan Creek sortira la version Schrader en DVd simultanément à la version la version Harlin. Deux version d'un même film par deux réals vont donc cohabiter!
'Exorcist's' double demons 04/13/2004
Mon Apr 12, 8:00 PM ET
Claude Brodesser, Dave McNary, STAFF
Having first made a prequel to the 1973 blockbuster with Paul Schrader (news) and found it lacking in overt frights, Morgan Creek commissioned a second "Exorcist" prequel with a new cast, a tweaked script and a new director in Renny Harlin; that pic will be released in theaters Aug. 20.
Will Schrader's movie be consigned to the scrap heap? No, Morgan Creek topper James Robinson has other plans: He's seeking to have Warner Bros. release both helmers' "Exorcist" pics on DVD simultaneously. Among other potential confusions, this raises the specter of a complicated credits arbitration with the DGA.
It's an unconventional, and possibly unprecedented move, with sizable implications for both pics' bottom lines. Almost $100 million is at stake.
"I'm very proud of my film, and I think it deserves to be seen," Schrader told Daily Variety. "If I get the DVD, I can say 'God bless you Renny; may your film do well.' "
Schrader said he's agreed in principle to the arrangement with Morgan Creek in order to get his version seen and as a way of settling the contractual issues of his being owed a preview and an official screening. He also said the pact will eliminate the possibility of a Directors Guild of America credit arbitration.
Schrader noted his original marching orders were to make a non-hardcore horror film lacking in the original's more shocking qualities.
"They made it clear -- no spinning heads and no pea soup," he said. "So that's what I delivered, but then they changed their mind."
Schrader noted the pact includes a nondisparagement clause for both sides.
"The agreement allows me to say that it's Robinson's money and his decision," he added. "This is kind of a case of buyer's remorse, as you bought a Lexus, and when you got it home, you decided that you really wanted a Hummer, so now you have a Lexus and a Hummer in your garage."
It's unclear whether consumers would pay extra for two prequels. Also unknown is whether Warners would bundle both films in one DVD or simply make both films available individually. A spokesman for the studio said Morgan Creek hadn't yet discussed the DVD plan with execs there.
Robinson said he's deferring to Warner homevid prexy James Cardwell on the subject of how many discs to package, but insists the two "Exorcist" films are distinct, and not one film that has simply been reshot.
"This is going to sound unbelievable," Robinson said of the decision, "but we made a movie -- twice. If you see the two movies, you wouldn't believe it's the same d.p."
After Schrader's "Exorcist" allegedly came up short on scares, scribe Alexi Hawley was hired to change the script in a few areas, and its central characters were recast and, in some cases, renamed.
For example, Gabriel Mann, who played Father Francis in the Schrader version, was replaced by James D'Arcy in that role. In Harlin's movie, the character of Rachel (Clara Bellar) was changed to Sarah and played by Izabella Scorupco (news). And the part of Che-che, played for Schrader by pop star Billy Crawford (news), was changed to Joseph, played by Remy Sweeny.
The motivation for the dual DVD release was the substantial cost of shooting Schrader's picture, which Robinson says was roughly $32 million to $35 million. Harlin's version, shot with the same cinematographer, cost between $52 million to $54 million, according to Robinson.
"The situation is in some ways the ultimate film school exercise, though you usually don't give each director $35 million to make their film," added Schrader, best known for penning classics like "Raging Bull" and "Taxi Driver."
Of course, "Exorcist" had been bedeviled by numerous snafus that predated even the Schrader/Harlin imbroglio. John Frankenheimer (news) was to have helmed the film originally, but died before he got the chance. Schrader's intended lead, Liam Neeson (news), was replaced by Stellan Skarsgard (news), due to Neeson's scheduling conflicts.
The DGA has declined to comment on the matter.
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'Exorcist's' double demons 04/13/2004
Mon Apr 12, 8:00 PM ET
Claude Brodesser, Dave McNary, STAFF
Having first made a prequel to the 1973 blockbuster with Paul Schrader (news) and found it lacking in overt frights, Morgan Creek commissioned a second "Exorcist" prequel with a new cast, a tweaked script and a new director in Renny Harlin; that pic will be released in theaters Aug. 20.
Will Schrader's movie be consigned to the scrap heap? No, Morgan Creek topper James Robinson has other plans: He's seeking to have Warner Bros. release both helmers' "Exorcist" pics on DVD simultaneously. Among other potential confusions, this raises the specter of a complicated credits arbitration with the DGA.
It's an unconventional, and possibly unprecedented move, with sizable implications for both pics' bottom lines. Almost $100 million is at stake.
"I'm very proud of my film, and I think it deserves to be seen," Schrader told Daily Variety. "If I get the DVD, I can say 'God bless you Renny; may your film do well.' "
Schrader said he's agreed in principle to the arrangement with Morgan Creek in order to get his version seen and as a way of settling the contractual issues of his being owed a preview and an official screening. He also said the pact will eliminate the possibility of a Directors Guild of America credit arbitration.
Schrader noted his original marching orders were to make a non-hardcore horror film lacking in the original's more shocking qualities.
"They made it clear -- no spinning heads and no pea soup," he said. "So that's what I delivered, but then they changed their mind."
Schrader noted the pact includes a nondisparagement clause for both sides.
"The agreement allows me to say that it's Robinson's money and his decision," he added. "This is kind of a case of buyer's remorse, as you bought a Lexus, and when you got it home, you decided that you really wanted a Hummer, so now you have a Lexus and a Hummer in your garage."
It's unclear whether consumers would pay extra for two prequels. Also unknown is whether Warners would bundle both films in one DVD or simply make both films available individually. A spokesman for the studio said Morgan Creek hadn't yet discussed the DVD plan with execs there.
Robinson said he's deferring to Warner homevid prexy James Cardwell on the subject of how many discs to package, but insists the two "Exorcist" films are distinct, and not one film that has simply been reshot.
"This is going to sound unbelievable," Robinson said of the decision, "but we made a movie -- twice. If you see the two movies, you wouldn't believe it's the same d.p."
After Schrader's "Exorcist" allegedly came up short on scares, scribe Alexi Hawley was hired to change the script in a few areas, and its central characters were recast and, in some cases, renamed.
For example, Gabriel Mann, who played Father Francis in the Schrader version, was replaced by James D'Arcy in that role. In Harlin's movie, the character of Rachel (Clara Bellar) was changed to Sarah and played by Izabella Scorupco (news). And the part of Che-che, played for Schrader by pop star Billy Crawford (news), was changed to Joseph, played by Remy Sweeny.
The motivation for the dual DVD release was the substantial cost of shooting Schrader's picture, which Robinson says was roughly $32 million to $35 million. Harlin's version, shot with the same cinematographer, cost between $52 million to $54 million, according to Robinson.
"The situation is in some ways the ultimate film school exercise, though you usually don't give each director $35 million to make their film," added Schrader, best known for penning classics like "Raging Bull" and "Taxi Driver."
Of course, "Exorcist" had been bedeviled by numerous snafus that predated even the Schrader/Harlin imbroglio. John Frankenheimer (news) was to have helmed the film originally, but died before he got the chance. Schrader's intended lead, Liam Neeson (news), was replaced by Stellan Skarsgard (news), due to Neeson's scheduling conflicts.
The DGA has declined to comment on the matter.
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